Reminds me of our former YRR pastor who told us he didnt come here just to serve, serve, serve all the time! Still scratching my head over that one! I know many folks like me at Mclean. And, sometimes, you get the pleasure of seeing their petty responses to someone that they have no other way of harming. © 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 - The Wartburg Watch. Platt and his team are also reorganizing the board and the IMB is going through significant change. WebHaving a speech impairment can be a very frustrating and embarrassing experience for the person experiencing it. One of the commenters proceeded to lecture me on how everyone has the same 24 hours in a day and that I was just being lazy on getting my own information. Plus, it has been my experience, that while this is way overly simplistic, there seems to two kinds of people: 1. Marketing a need for the bread will create a desire for those who feel that by purchasing the bread, they too will be beautiful, successfully suburban with beautiful spouse and kids under blue skies like the advertising. David Platt unfortunately comes across as manipulating and disingenuous. She never told me what they talked about, but she spoke very highly of him and enjoyed having him visit. We are to go into all the world and BE witnesses. Yes- he is doing it for free. The academy serving the Church is not explicit in scripture. And when it goes badly we want to blame the clergy for not being Jesus to us. They are not supposed to be, as they are not supposed to exist. I felt the LORD give me this analogy/story line a few years ago concerning juggernaut corporate bakeries and local artisan bakeries. Everyone that knows anything must have taken a vow of silence. How differently the Word would be preached if nobodys mortgage depended on tickling itching ears? And therein lies the rub. A spiritual birth which transforms someone into a true Christian, a saint, by the activity of the Holy Spirit. See Matthew 3:11; John 3:3-8; 7:39; 14:17; 20:22; Acts 2:38; Romans 8:2-26; 14:17; 1 Corinthians 2:10-12; 3:16; 6:11-19; 12:13; 2 Corinthians 3:3; 17-18; Galatians 3:2-5, 14; 4:6; Ephesians 1:13; 3:16; 4:30; 5:18; Philippians 2:1; 1 Thessalonians 4:8; 2 Thessalonians 2:13; 2 Timothy 1:14; Titus 3:5; Hebrews 6:4; 1 Peter 1:2,22; 1 John 3:24; 4:13; Jude 1:20. No liberal lefty here, in fact, not really political at all. Its reductionistic, but I like the Church gathered to worship (edify, exhort, encourage) and be fed; then the Church scattered (respective families, jobs, neighborhoods) to do missions/evangelism. You left out charlatans and congenital liars. Whos We? Some of the classes taught by laymembers at MBC are outstanding. Well, I am officially terrified of diverticulitis now! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nIBOG8BRcdY. If youre a religious figure, you can designate some portion of your income (up to a certain point, please consult with your tax advisor) as compensation for housing. It seems to me that youre all just looking for the perfect church. My post probably doesnt do justice to the actual experience of reading them for yourself. I am a member of MBCbut now a former member as of today. True enough I thought, but if he really believed the Radical stuff he writes about whats keeping him from pulling up stakes and moving there? 13. Dont get me wrongI believe the Bible clearly gives the church a fair amount of temporal authority and does enjoin us to provide for folks temporal needs, be they material or emotional or whatever. He said "Bill, this is Christ's body, broken for you." Id say it takes me anywhere from 8-15 hours to put together a new sermon depending on my familiarity with the passage. Surgeon was able to do a one-step resection without a colostomy. A shepherd is one who feeds. A friend of one of my kids has stuck with SBC mega through its transitioning into calvinist/ comp/ elite and IMO one reason is precisely the organization judging from what I know of that person in other areas of his life. Please keep up the good study. But I wonder if the drawbacks of the megachurch are worth those benefits. If you had a church in a city that had been owned free and clear for a 100 years it would end up being impossible to run if it wasnt flush with cash. Im all over the continuum insofar as views go. I would like to say to all of you. And then, in adulthood, we become the teachers, the feeders ourselves? So while I dislike Platts platitudes in general, Ive no problem with him supply preaching for the church. I am not convinced the humility David Platt exhibits is real, considering his celebrity status and the lack of persecution from the world. I believe he is fitting in quite nicely with the harlot institutional church, using the Name of our LORD for his own personal glory. By loving them we glorify God because God is love. Was Peter a pastor to these souls or just a talking head? With a seminary degree???? The quick exhilaration of excitement and energy packaged with brightly colored dyes is an easy sell to the consumer. David is a gifted speaker and inspiring leader. Faith is a response to Gods Self-revelation. @ Headless Unicorn Guy: Tell me want to do/believe, and I will do it, I do not want to figure it my self to much work and, 2. In a 35 minute sermon, how much time would you think was spent either reading from the Bible or explaining with those versus meant? have you guys even listened to his sermons?? First, a general reason: God has always existed in relationshipthe loving relationship of Father, Son, and Spirit. Being paid an honorarium for each sermon is not a salary so one wonders if this is all spin. Some are completely reasonable, and some would run any old church in an area that appreciated out of town. It is like they think they are crossing some sort of line if they drop their guard and form genuine relationships. The Holy Spirits indwelling Presence IS our witness. https://fiec.org.uk/events/event/leaders-conference-2017. Of course, were they to turn it into a profit center and start renting it out for profit, thatd be different, but nothing in the tax code stops them from performing a community service like that. We are called to be like the Bereans in Acts 17:11, so the more I followed up with Davids teaching I found that he plays fast and loose with Gods word. There is no excuse for the lack of shepherding, love, and caring that we are seeing in the modern church. 20-25 hours might involve something like translating the passage out of the original language, maybe? To follow my last commentthey have also hosted Mark Dever for a conference titled Growing Healthy Churches most ironic! It is also a biological code. We are there as a BODY to ask what can we do to GLORIFY GOD?. You cant have it both ways and these special privileges may prove to be a future rationalization for government meddling. Those things cannot be torn apart and pitted against each other; they are part and parcel of the whole. Every eight years the denomination "requires it". I explain I can't do funerals, visits, phone calls, or meetings. @ Todd Wilhelm: I have recently been told that this is the beginning of moving Platt out of the IMB by letting him *discover* that he would prefer to preach instead of trying to dig himself out of the mess at the IMB. And there is now a DidaskoFellowship of churches which is about to set up a Didasko Presbytery. Therefore, Who God is and what He has done is paramount for the faith community. Having been in SBC churches for 20 years, I can honestly say that most megachurch sermons are shallow and quite devoid of teaching of Scripture. More and more of the community are showing up with poor eyesight and bad circulation in the feet. Paul instructed Timothy to give attention to the public reading of Scripture, to exhortation and teaching (1 Tim 4:13); to take pains with these things, be absorbed in them, to pay close attention to yourself and to your teaching, and persevere in these things. Its high-glycemic index gives a rush of exhilaration as it floods into the bloodstream like pure sugar. ishy wrote: Much of the sermon is basic storytelling. 34:1-10)? Pod People do not need more than a podcast, and are very easy to manage. Next, improvements in distribution will enable more people to have access to the bread: more markets and bigger market-share. Why are we so downright stupid? solution pollution Posts: 49. Unless you show me some passages that demonstrate it was the norm. Case in point; many years ago my mother, a widow, attended a small church. If we then love God we will/should obey God, or so Jesus said regarding himself. Every inch of my kitchen counter is covered with stuff. I know what you mean about David Platts sermon style. Week in the hospital with IV antibiotics and drains (after a few days on NG tube and Foley no fun), then recuperating at home for a month on a restricted diet. Having been in SBC churches for 20 years, I can honestly say that most megachurch sermons are shallow and quite devoid of teaching of Scripture. And in most of these churches, members arent allowed to do much ministry either, because they have paid staff for that who make 4-10x more than the average member of the congregation. I cannot question it if its really Gods call for him. Of course, you can do some evangelism at the church site. Do we then marginalize the spiritually handicapped after weve sold them the uniform white, conforming to you, mass produced bread? (PS: We would like to know how many of Ed Stetzer church plants survived.It's a little hard to get that number). So while I dislike Platts platitudes in general, Ive no problem with him supply preaching for the church. His sermons his weekend gig are dark and uninspiring. Earlier this year,Plattwent to McLean Bible Church as in interim pastor. I never really made it past the Introduction in the book 9 Marks of a Healthy Church because he did not include prayer in the 9 Marks. They will help the bakery improve marketing and distribution: Corporate granaries such as ConAggerback and General Willow Mills. This leaves the door wide open for our congregation to see areas of leadership where they are needed, and to respond accordingly.. They will know him just as well as his church will know him which is not at all. I seriously have heard the exact same sermon at three churches, with the same title and even the same examples, and all of those pastors boasted about the amount of time they spent writing their sermons. See how you feel then. Take this opportunity to tell these supposed *pastors* what you think a pastor should be. Ministry to believers is creature-centric. The Forgotten Mandate: Feed My Sheep or Putting Bread on the Table. I dont believe there is invested (maybe you meant vested?) However, other fans, find Jimmys voice to be his hallmark trait. stroke. Were Dones. So here I sit on the fence not wanting to miss out on the excellent teachings in small classes at MBC but hungry for community (that is what a church is supposed to be, isnt it?). I know, I mean, how many golf stories can one hear? How does this work? In other words, ISTM that the Mohler faction has won that war. This leaves the door wide open for our congregation to see areas of leadership where they are needed, and to respond accordingly.". It certainly wasn't dealing with parents extreme mental illness for 30 years, health problems of both sets of departed parents raising my sister when we had a new baby and the teenage junk she put us thu, it certainly wasn't when my husband lost the use of arm to a accident and spent a year at p.t , it certainly wasn't when my accident caused me a bum leg and I still do my housework dragging it around. Ive seen it work well. My impression is that these guys truly have no intention to get to know or love anyonethey only desire to lead! Would be beneficial if more people pastored in like fashion. (or is it just me) Like when he says Can't Keep, InsignifiCance, and a face in the Clouds; just a few examples. . If I had never joined a church till I had found one that was perfect, I should never have joined one at all; and the moment I did join it, if I had found one, I should have spoiled it, for it would not have been a perfect church after I had become a member of it. This phrase lacks, IMHO, just a single e. It was a hard time to be an officer in NYC with the drug problems Does everything have to be done according to the Bible? If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it. The pastor did show for the funeral, but came with an understudy (seminary student?). You cant have it both ways and these special privileges may prove to be a future rationalization for govern, And the churches want to remain tax exempt, but they certainly do want to benefit from the taxes others pay in: First things first, since were lost in all the re-definitions while keeping old labels. Last Thursday night, my church hosted a community hearing about a city street-widening project in the immediate area which affected them among others. Is this the same Augustine who is considered one of the fathers of the faith? For whatever reason they didnt feel comfortable mixing with the common folk. I wonder whether you can ever meet with ANY ordained clergy person at MBC. In my opinion, the real trick is how much of that stuff do you (generic you) wanna extrapolate out the Bibles way back when and try an make it apply in the here and now? They promote their conferences, they sell books by Piper, Mahaney, DeYoung and the rest. I hope Ive answered your question. Also surprised MBC would go for this. It sounds like the sort of cock-and-bull answer one often gets from a churchy type of person who isnt a Jesus type of person. @ dee: Once the new pastor arrived, it quickly went Neo-Cal. Their incorporation into 501c3 could have serious consequences for them if they are preaching against government legislation (eg. I believe they will be held accountable. Or mainly? @Richard- My family also attends (Soon to be attended) MBC and feel the exact opposite. So yes, I do think they dont really care about the other things, too. Here are the top six lies David Platt told to McLean Bible Church to mischaracterize conservative dissidents working to save the church from the Woke Social Justice heresy. David Platt lied and claimed McLean Bible Church is not affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention. However, all the evidence says otherwise. I was furious but also too new to the church and too scared to call him out on it. If things do go bad, I could go home to house and spouse, and have my career. One hour to download it from a Research Service and trim off the labels, 19-24 hours to play Doom, Sounds like Comrade Napoleon on how the Pigs of the Inner Party have such a hard and lonely task. The entitlement mentally is astonishing. Ive just looked again at David Platts photograph at the top of this thread. @ Arnold Smartarse: People do what they think will achieve the goal that they have. And somebody please give me chapter and verse where it says that all these task skills need to be present in one person. The things she happened upon sent her down rabbit trails while she was researching Du Bai (sp?) Both monologue (preaching) and dialogue (teaching w/discussion) are valuable in the Church. We always sit in the back and still do. (I am not making fun of word studies, I would love love love to have access to a full bells and whistles version of Logos software.) Rather than whole-wheat flour with all its bran and uneven texture, enriched bleached white flour makes a uniform product and its cheaper and plentiful from corporate granaries that have their own juggernaut marketing and distribution channels. He is doing exactly this! WebDavid Platt Introduction: David Platt, The disciples world had just been rocked when Jesus turned their thinking up-side down about what makes someone clean. Yes mission is important but it is the means, not the end. This event basically served as a promotion for one of Platts books and undoubtedly it boosted sales back in the USA. When I attended a Sovereign Grace Church the pastors had their own small group! My guess is that they are going to start monkeying around with what is being taught. His sermon on Acts opened our eyes when he introduced some social justice themes in his sermon that had literally nothing to do with the text. I would like to say to all of you. Please preface it with, As the New Testament CLEARLY shows in XYZ. While some people think that Jimmy sounds like he could be deaf for some reason, many others think he has the hottest voice ever. Silence, as the cancer stealthy grows? United prayer, therefore, requires that the one for whom we pray be looking away from us to the Lord Jesus Christ, and we together look to Him alone (1), respectfully, as you anticipate heavenly things, make every effort to be found at peace with The Lord Jesus, and that pressing towards being without spot or blemish, growing in the grace and knowledge of our Savior Jesus Christ. The Calvinist are attempting to win a prized stronghold in northern Virginia. Like your husband, I am deeply touched when a pastor knows my name & uses it in a kind way. It seems perfectly obvious to me that He wants more when it comes to eternity than just hanging around and thinking pleasant thoughts, so to speak. Washing disciples feet delegate. And of course to get it embodied, which you can only do with individuals, not in the abstract.-Eugene H. Peterson link. You are the church. The one who dries your tears and holds your hand in the hospital and does your funeral and your weddings. Another reason the SBC is a joke. I dont try to use gender inclusive language. Nor do they ever get any deeper. I know of a Bible church in our area (the Triangle Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill) where it appears the elders, not the congregation, hand-picked the pastor. The Church gathered to worship is a witness that God indwells His people. There is no such thing as a teaching pastor in scripture. WebHearing Aid & Speech Issues Explored. Different people; different needs. It is both costly and enriching to do so. ishy wrote: Their disregard for anything outside their circle was heartbreaking. As a police officer, he was still in his 20s feeling burnt out and over it. Mohler and Company: The tweets from these guys add an extra dimension to the posts at TWW. for a paper. This is a network of churches Smyth started while preaching in South Africa and is attempting to expand into the USA, but again, it doesnt appear to me that CLC members are getting an honest days work for the salary they are paying Smyth, but the average member doesnt seem overly concerned about that. One time my former FIEC church had Don Carson come to preach and my friends were so excited by it. My church now has quite short sermons, with liturgy. It is also a biological code. As far as the east is from the west, false Christianity makes the big bucks these days in the land of the affluent for many have bought into the belief that Jesus came to make us healthy, wealthy, and prosperous. We were an all volunteer army. That sounds like a good first step, but its not a guarantee. Hes doing well. Yours is a valuable reminder, too, of how many clergy embody anything BUT the gospel. The shared leadership not taking full-time pay checks from their fellow believers, perhaps? The real eternal issue before us is not some form of Calvinism, but Christ! the title teaching pastor means they do not have to interact with the peasant pew sitters. The non-denominational fellowship had its services in I think it was the auditorium of a middle school in McLean, VA. As I recall, the teaching was Bible-based and for the most part spot on. Once the bible (or more specifically what some people try to do with the bible} is treated as simply a different version of the old Jewish idea of law and thus turned into a burden too heavy to bear-then we can quote Jesus himself about the fact that creating burdens like that is a big time no-no. I try to use gender inclusive language, but I dont bend over backwards. In the United States, theres a reason for that, and it has to do with income taxes. What about the way New Testament leaders and teachers apparently worked to provide their own physical sustenance, so they would not be burdensome on the believers, oh, say, tent-making, for example? And I do not want that. My problem with the tax breaks for churches and staff is they dont want government intrusion but then want to keep special exemptions. This leaves the door wide open for our congregation to see areas of leadership where they are needed, and to respond accordingly.. Thanks for chiming in! My wife and I are part of McLean Bible Church and we were thrilled that David approached us and volunteered his time to bring us Gods Word. If one person does happen to have a message that the church feels is important to be shared across all the campuses, then that person can travel around and deliver the message in person. As you are well aware, the spiritual life saved, may very well be a personal one. Webdoes david platt speech impediment. Now that I know what Im withoutYou cant just leave me -Bring Me To Life (1), 501(c)3 calvinesta stealthy church rape'(tm), has found its way as a serious topic of Christian public discussion, showing up in various forms of media: books, scholarly white papers, blogs, internet and radio talk shows, and church podium warnings all around the country. Id be very interested. I mean its not that big of a deal until you look at a pattern in the entire movement. but then disillusioning applies to so many issues relating to this silly religion of mine. I still want to know the story of the 1,000 SBC missionaries that were called home. The Church is there to train us, teach us. Imagine how differently the church would impact the world if the money spent on buildings and salaries went to meeting needs? Sometimes because of past hurts in churches, when I go to a church service, I just want to be an anonymous person who sits in the back. These pastors do a lot of fund raising in the USA, selling themselves as making a huge impact on the muslim world for the cause of Christ. No liberal lefty here, in fact, not really political at all, As all were replaced their titles changed with the word pastor not minister. It is the body of Christ -Rachelle. And yet theyre the very people we should be hearing about, because they are setting an example worth following. Were paying, sometimes til it drives us into financial ruin, to be abused. In growth and maturity, we need to feed others, and to be served, ourselves both. All the best! David may be a great speaker, but hes not a good people person in my opinion. He left a very happy, happy manno persecution there! David Eigenberg isn't deaf in real life, thus he doesn't need hearing aids or have speech problems. I dont understand why they want to borrow celebrities. think of how useful the church facility could be to the community instead of sitting closed up 96% of the week. You have a good point. Dee, I really like this post, as I used to work at St. Thomas, an Episcopal Church across the street from McLean Bible. The Tron, and others (some of which are known to me directly) are looking for the perfect church network. As I wrote last night, the trend over the last 20 years (and especially the last 10 years) has been consolidation of power around Mohler and Mohler loyalists with the only doctrinal essentials being Authoritarianism (meaning loyalty to whatever they say) and Complementarianism. Who will pay the cost as a revelation of the worth of Gods love? John 3:16 God so loved the world.God loves us all and wants us to spend eternity with him. This happens at my church too and it is lovely. feeling tension over what is duplicitous, deceitful, self-promoting under the cover of God is a healthy response. WE need to correct others, and we need to be able to receive correction. WebDavid Platt Is Ready to Leave the IMB. David Platt, An MBC (1) Teaching Pastor, Is Infected With Calvinism. (Dont let him infect you!). Exodus 40 10-17 we see that God appointed Aaron as spokesman for Moses. Remembering your thoughts from another post equating charismatics need for a sign (miracles) and evangelicals need for a sign (changed lives), I suppose preaching is another sign that is used to mesmerise the patrons, and like you suggest, build an empire. Most people happen to believe that a pastor should be more than a podcast on legs. If hes not getting a salary, why does he need this title. In the parish hall of my church. Based on that I was planning to make MBC my home church. What is Jesus gospel? Does not. Possibly a merger of IMB and NAMB which would be useful bury several issues *and* create new opportunities. He needs a vacation, so do I from LIFE. Does theology (study of God) take precedence in your schedule? I dont remember the details, just that I got the idea that they shouldnt be encouraged to attend and fellowship with the body if theyre not comfortable making a commitment in writing. MBC used to meet at Langley High School before building a huge church building. He could have one or not, but telling everyone when you first meet that he does NOT tells you something and its not a positive thing. Tradition, and anyone that questions tradition is a liberal, and we all know where that leads. They must have gone in in laparoscopically. Prayer will lead the Church to Glorify God, Shouldnt we all be spending time with Christ, studying? I believe this is the way missions should be viewed and accomplished. The building which was on the tax rolls is now removed causing a decrease in the tax base and higher taxes for others. Being hired to spend your week writing sermons and you lie about it and let someone else write them. But now most megas treat their head/lead/teaching pastor as the answer to continued success as a church and I think its a reason for this very unhealthy obsession with Christian celebrity pastors. Hopefully they will all burn themselves out by being crazy busy like Platt and go away! Evidently the title lead pastor gives them street cred for moving up in the movement. Im fine with paying staff, pastors, etc, but dont insist theres a New Testament mandate for the paid career program we see. The shareholders are proud of their new corporate bakery enterprise. This has led to speculation that he wears a hearing aid and has speech problems. He has bigger things to do. Blogs. No disrespect to the multitude of honest, hard working real pastors who labor faithfully, week in and week out in normal churches with an average of 100-200 in attendance each week. A lot of these groups are, to my mind, strongly analogous to the none/done population. Having grown up in a mainline Protestant denomination, this experience was fabulous. * But that is in keeping with his I sacrifice and live in the bad part of town for the gospel even though I travel all the time and so only my family really has to endure living there from day to day.. At first I chuckled because it seems obvious to me that pastors who should know the names of those in their congregation. Are people these days accustomed to this style of church where theyre just a number and only there to listen to someone completely detached from their lives speak to them for 45 minutes or so? No disrespect to the multitude of honest, hard working real pastors who labor faithfully, week in and week out in normal churches with an average of 100-200 in attendance each week. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. 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