This booking appears to have been made on the Sunday night. 7. There is good evidence that the so-called Last Photo of Madeleine was taken at lunchtime on Sunday 29 April and not at lunchtime on Thursday 3 May as claimed by the McCanns. On Friday 4 May, the McCanns friend Jane Tanner gave a description of a man she said she had seen, carrying a child, at 9.15pm on the night Madeleine was reported missing. 6. What possible good excuse could there be for lying so many times about the fate of a missing child? Then there would be another very tricky question to answer: Just our very good friends David and Fiona? There is evidence that he and Gerry McCann may have known each other before the McCanns holiday in Praia da Luz in 2007, 2. It would also be consistent with the apartment having been forensically cleansed before the alarm was raised and Madeleines clothes and other items having been removed or disposed of. We refer in particular to her article on CMOMM posted on 28 September 2015, on the lack of credible evidence that Madeleine was seen alive after Sunday, link here: http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t11921-was-madeleine-seen-after-sunday-no-credible-evidence-that-she-was-watch-the-video? Body fluids found in the boot of a car hired by the parents of the missing four-year-old British girl 25 days after she went missing in Portugal showed she had been sedated, according to a French . How very true, over nine years later, has that prophecy come true. The very next day, early in the morning, a man called Nuno Lourenco rang the Portuguese police and said that, six days previously, a man was taking photographs of children on a beach had tried to kidnap his child at a tiny village called Sagres. 15 minutes to defend yourself against the death penalty. What happened then in the apartment remains a mystery. To even list, let alone explain, all the circumstantial evidence would take pages. Is that when Jane Tanner was briefed to give a description of Krokowski when she was questioned by the Portuguese police? Finally, they would have to arrange the crime scene, that is, the childrens bedroom, to make it look like an abduction had occurred - moved the beds. However, in our view it is very unlikely that her death could have been a simple accident, otherwise the McCanns would have taken her to the local hospital. They then said that the samples could have been from Madeleine but also that this could not be stated with any certainty. The absence of confirmed photos of Madeleine on the holiday from the Last Photo onwards. Tony and Cherie Blair also gave personal support to the McCanns, while David Cameron set up the five-year-long Metropolitan Police investigation into Madeleines reported disappearance. After jogging on the beach and going to fetch the twins, she collected Maddie at 5.30pm. For an optimal experience visit our site on another browser. Look at the analysis of these sightings by HideHo that we referred to above. Did Madeleine McCann die on Sunday 29th April 2007, four days before . The initial DNA samples taken from the body fluids discovered in the McCanns apartment and in their car showed a 99.99% certainty that they belonged to Madeleine McCann. Then (assuming that they then decided that they are not going to inform the authorities of Madeleines death) there are more decisions to be made about what to do with Madeleines body: Or phone a trusted friend first and ask for advice? However, we are persuaded, largely by evidence on the two 'Last Photo' threads on CMOMM, that the Last Photo was taken at lunchtime on Sunday 29 April. In addition to all these considerations, for Martin Grimes cadaver dogs to have alerted to the scent of a corpse, no longer present, some three months after the McCanns had vacated their holiday apartment, Madeleines body must have been lying in the McCanns apartment for at least 90 minutes, probably two hours or longer. All other claimed sightings of Madeleine on 3 May are equally unproven and open to serious doubt. Three-year-old Madeleine McCann vanished from a Portuguese holiday apartment almost 15 years ago. That also seems unlikely. Later, Robert Murat claimed that Mrs Fenn had phoned him, not Mrs Glyn, about the alleged crying. AS far as we know, they knew no-one in the area who could help them. Madeleine could not have died after 6pm on Thursday 3 May. 7. Just our other good friends Russell and Jane? He was on an extended stay in England (Devon) when the McCanns went on holiday to Praia da Luz in 2007, 4. British and German police appealed for information about the man and released photographs of vehicles a Volkswagen camper van and a Jaguar which he used at the time. The conclusions my team and I have arrived at are the following: The minor, Madeleine McCann died inside apartment 5A of the Ocean Club in Vila da Luz, on the night of May 3rd 2007; Kate Healy and Gerald McCann were probably involved in the concealment of their daughter's body. When he was asked at an interview under caution in Portugal on 15 May 2007 what he had been doing in Portugal during his first four days there (1-4 May), he lied about his actions in at least 17 material respects. The following are some of the main factual issues we have taken into consideration in arriving at our conclusion that Madeleine McCann died on Sunday 29 April: No DNA of Madeleine was found in the McCanns apartment, nor on her clothes nor on objects she had used or come into contact with on holiday, e.g. We find this a curious incident. No-one else heard a child crying loudly for 75 minutes that night. On both, her hair length was the same. A preliminary point to raise is: were the twins present when, according to the PJ theory, Madeleine died? She had a pink hair bead on her. Thu 20 Mar 2014 18.35 EDT. Her accounts lack any real detail of what Madeleine actually did in the creche that week. "All we have ever wanted is to find her, uncover the truth and bring those responsible to justice," her parents, Kate and Gerry, said in a statement issued before the German prosecutor spoke. April 2017: The only four . It is time for us now to be still more specific about why we think she died on the Sunday that week. This impression was wholly false. This situation may raise questions concerning the circumstances in which the death of the child took place. If that analysis is correct, this shows evidence of cunning planning and deception, amounting to perverting the course of justice. (as indeed they did so claim). This issue was very fully addressed in Richard D. Halls third film about Madeleine McCann: When Madeleine Died? Without necessarily agreeing with every specific point he makes in that documentary, we adopt his main conclusions, so far as they go. (ii) What shall we all do after we raise the alarm? The minor, Madeleine McCann died inside apartment 5A of the Ocean Club in Vila da Luz, on the night of May 3rd 2007; If she died after 6pm on Thursday 3 May, what would the McCanns and their friends have had to do in the four hours between 6pm and 10pm? From that moment on, no other person saw the little girl, apart from her parents and their friends. Further to the above point, hairs of the same haplotype as Robert Murat and Jane Tanner were found at Krokowskis apartment when it was searched by the police. spatters on the walls could have been caused by mosquitoes crashing (v) Would we be investigated by the police? A judge refused to hear the dog handlers evidence, saying that sniffer dogs evidence was too unreliable. What was it that galvanised them all into sending reporters there so soon? A raft of evidence, but especially comparative weather records for the week, point in that direction. The McCanns say the photo was taken at 2.29pm on Thursday 3 May. Were they sent ahead of Bell Pottinger as a kind of advance party because something serious had already happened to Madeleine? Madeleine vanished shortly before her fourth birthday while her parents were eating dinner with friends at a nearby tapas restaurant, and would have turned 17 last month. What time shall we get her to say she saw someone? No satisfactory explanation for this has ever been provided. BERLIN Madeleine McCann, the British girl who disappeared in Portugal in 2007 aged just three, is dead, Germany's prosecutor said on Thursday after . Madeleine McCann went missing, aged three, in 2007. KATE and Gerry McCann may be told within days how their daughter Madeleine died. If we stop and pause for a moment to consider the above list, it is truly hard to conceive how they could possibly have made all these decisions, and carried them out, whilst all sitting down together for dinner in a public place at about 8.30pm until 10pm as if nothing had happened. What indications do we have about when she died? It was Wojchiech Krokowski, a man from Poland on holiday with his wife for the week. Portuguese police believe Madeleine McCann died in a 'tragic accident' and that her parents hid her body. Maybe they would have had other related questions. When he was asked at an interview under caution in Portugal on 15 May 2007 what he had been doing in Portugal during his first four days there (1-4 May), he lied about his actions in at least 17 material respects. These are the relevant extracts from Goncalo Amarals book (AnnaEsses translation): On the fateful day of May 3rd, the attendance register at the play centre indicates that Madeleine arrived at 9.10, accompanied by her father. http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t11921-was-madeleine-seen-after-sunday-no-credible-evidence-that-she-was-watch-the-video? Here is what each of the two men actually wrote: This was how Tavares de Almeida expressed the investigations preliminary conclusion I will just reproduce his first six points: From everything that we have discovered, our files result in the following conclusions: 1 the minor Madeleine McCann died in Apartment 5A at the Ocean Club resort in Praia da Luz, 2 simulation - a staged hoax - of an abduction took place, 3 in order to render the childs death impossible before 10.00pm, a situation of checking of the McCann couples children while they slept was concocted. Repairs to the shutters of the McCanns apartment were needed on the Monday; Ocean Club staff came to mend them that day. Point 5. He and his team also (rightly) rejected claims by Dr David Payne that he saw all three of the McCanns children alive on a visit he and Kate McCann said that he had made to the McCanns apartment at about 6.30pm on 3 May. Later, when re-interviewed by the Portuguese police on 10 and 11 July, after police had interrogated his mobile phone, and discovered that the account he had earlier given of his movements was false, he completely changed his story, claiming he had been too tired on 15 May to tell the truth. We finally decide to question her (Kate McCann) as a witness, but not to pose questions on the events after 5.30pm, the time at which she returned to the apartment with her three children. Her mother came to fetch her at 12.25 for lunch and took her back at 2 o'clock. Photograph: PA. Amaral released his book, The Truth of the Lie, three days after the Portuguese attorney general decided to end the search for . To give but one recent example, dozens of people, including police and celebrities, knew that Jimmy Saville was a serial paedophile. April 23, 2022 12:58pm. (viii) What time shall we get her to say she saw someone? holiday, thats why the smell of death was on her clothes. Evidence that the children of the McCanns and their friends were cared for in one room from Sunday night onwards. 28 April 2007 - The McCann's arrive in Portugal Kate and Gerry McCann take their three children - Madeleine, three, and twins Amelie and Sean, two, on holiday to the Ocean Club complex in Praia da . We cannot say. The Portuguese police investigation into her disappearance closed in July 2008. (ii) Just our very good friends David and Fiona? Mrs Pamela Fenn, a widow who lived above the McCanns, heard Madeleine crying between 10.30pm and 11.45pm on Tuesday night. Kate and Gerry McCann said it reflected progress in the . (vi) Do we need someone to pretend to see an abductor? To give but one recent example, dozens of people, including police and celebrities, knew that Jimmy Saville was a serial paedophile. These are the relevant extracts from Goncalo Amarals book (AnnaEsses translation): On the fateful day of May 3rd, the attendance register at the play centre indicates that Madeleine arrived at 9.10, accompanied by her father. Is that when Jane Tanner was briefed to give a description of Krokowski when she was questioned by the Portuguese police? We will refer to the theory that Madeleine died from an accident (or worse). She did not make her statement until 20 August - over three-and-a-half months after the event. She described a man of medium height, with long black hair, wearing cloth clothes and classic shoes, who didnt look like a tourist. It would also be consistent with the apartment having been forensically cleansed before the alarm was raised and Madeleines clothes and other items having been removed or disposed of. It appeared in a short film made by Madeleines godfather, film-maker Jon Corner. Evidence that an abduction hoax was planned over a period of four days. "Kate McCann and Gerald McCann are involved in the concealment of the cadaver of their daughter, Madeleine McCann" George Moras, Honorary Chief Commissioner of the National French Police "Today, the only person prosecuted in the case of the disappearance of little Madeleine McCann is the officer who conducted the investigation. A preliminary point to raise is: were the twins present when, according to the PJ theory, Madeleine died? It was very early - Madeleine might very well have been found alive and well later that Friday - but on that very day, many media editors immediately despatched reporters to Praia da Luz. Quite apart from anything else, why did he delay for six days reporting a man taking photos of children on a beach and who later that day tried to kidnap his daughter? Madeleine McCann is "assumed" to be dead, say German prosecutors, who are investigating the disappearance of the British girl in . Gerry McCann tried to claim that cadaver dogs, and sniffer dogs generally, were incredibly unreliable. It was not public knowledge, until earlier this year, that Sir Clement Freud - who twice invited the McCanns to his Praia da Luz home for eats and drinks in the weeks that followed Madeleines disappearance - had been a serial paedophile for decades. Madeleines 4th Birthday Just 9 days after her parents reported her disappearance and claimed that she had been abducted by a paedophile gang. But, according to the PJ theory, they must have been. Lourenco supplied the police with a photograph he said he had taken of the mans car. Madeleine McCann has been missing for nearly 15 years after she disappeared, aged three, in Portugal. We find this a curious incident. Eileen McCann, Madeleine's paternal grandma, died from coronavirus weeks before police publicly announced a new suspect in the little girl's 2007 Algarve disappearance. - October 28: Scotland Yard cuts the number of officers working on the inquiry from 29 to four. There is no other photo of Madeleine which with certainty can be said to have been taken after then, which we regard as hugely significant. He took the early morning flight to Faro, Portugal from Exeter at 7am the very next day, Tuesday 1 May. This suggests that Lourenco was part of a group of people who planned to deliberately sabotage the Portuguese polices investigation and send them off in entirely the wrong direction. Never being seen out together with the twins from Monday onwards. towel, pillow, bedding, hairbrush and toothbrush. But those who claim that Madeleine died after 6pm have to explain how the McCanns were able to pull off an audacious abduction within the four hours between 6pm and 10pm (when the alarm was raised) on Thursday 3 May. January 28 - A video of the McCann's search for Madeleine is shown at a fund-raising event in London in January to mark the 1,000th day since Madeleine's disappearance. The relevant facts are these. The problem with the Tennis Balls Photo. It was the strong conviction of Dr Goncalo Amaral and his team of investigators that, based largely on the evidence of Catriona Baker, Madeleine was alive and present at a high tea at the Tapas restaurant on 3 May 2007. Michael Shrimpton reacts to this week's overblown reports of a 'fresh' development in the Madeleine McCann case. 'So they are suspects. So we suggest that all these things must have all happened, in approximately this order: (iii) Can we pass this off as a genuine accident? To sum up, there is no photographic evidence that Madeleine was alive after Sunday lunchtime (apart from the Make-Up photo - see below). Besides that, the times shown for Madeleine being in the creche do not even agree with what Kate McCann says in her own book about the events of that week. That would take some time and probably they would have had to take them to one of their friends apartments. Chapter 6: The arrival of the English Police. Almost 15 years after the disappearance of Madeleine McCann while on a family holiday in Portugal in 2007, police . There is agreement from the McCanns, their friends, other holidaymakers and Ocean Club staff that they were all settled at their table at around 8.30pm to 8.45pm. Our views are unlikely to change unless significant new evidence emerges. The conclusion that Madeleine died on the holiday is also strongly supported by a wealth of circumstantial evidence. Its Head of Risk, Alex Woolfall flew there the very next day (4 May) and he was later joined by another top Director of the company. We do not set out here all the multiple contradictions about the alleged high tea on 3 May; these have been more than adequately analysed in many places on the internet. We cannot say. Catriona Baker was in sole charge of the Lobsters creche of seven children (including Madeleine) the week the McCanns were in Praia da Luz. (v) Get hold of a car and drive the body somewhere well away from Praia da Luz. Here we rely mainly on the analyses by long-time Madeleine McCann researcher HideHo, who has examined all claimed sightings of Madeleine from Monday onwards, and found each one to be either vague, otherwise unsubstantiated or uncorroborated, or subject to contradictory evidence. Here are our main reasons: The Last Photo shows Gerry McCann, Madeleine and her sister Amelie by the Ocean Club swimming pool. . The absence of any undisputed confirmed sightings of Madeleine on or after Monday 30 April. The explanation for this conduct is inexplicable unless, for example, the room was empty and being cleaned. Just months after this, Eugene Zapata made a full confession which proved that the cadaver dogs evidence had been 100% correct. They said they were treating the case as a suspected murder and had determined the method used to kill McCann. It is said to prove that she was alive and well on the Tuesday that week. Madeleine McCann; prime suspect Christian Bruckner Getty Images. No body has ever been found. Do we go frantically pretending to look for her? Chapter 3: Announcement of a disappearance: The fi. They claimed that they were leaving their children on their own and checking on them, but still wanted to be able to see their apartment from the restaurant. Spending vast sums of money - much of it from the public - on expensive lawyers (including Michael Caplan QC, the top barrister who successfully stopped General Pinochet being extradited to Chile) and PR advisers, when none of these could have realistically helped to find Madeleine, The McCanns body language, including their obvious lack of raw emotion after the loss of their first child, Madeleines 4th Birthday Just 9 days after her parents reported her disappearance. Despite this, Kate McCann had the effrontery to mention this case in her 2011 book on the case, madeleine. This was meaningless. In the intervening years, a huge, costly police operation has taken place across much of Europe . Only one other photo of Madeleine was taken that week, the so-called Tennis Balls Photo. There would have been a severe emotional reaction and initial panic, and maybe a series of irrational responses, before they could properly gather their thoughts and begin to come to terms with the shock of losing their daughter and start planning how to cover it up. No DNA of Madeleine was found in the McCanns apartment, nor on her clothes nor on objects she had used or come into contact with on holiday, e.g. Now lets examine why we say she died on the Sunday. The McCanns refusing to give their holiday photos to the police. Is there any other reason why we dare not risk going to hospital and possibly facing a post-mortem? - somewhere where no-one could find it? German prosecutors said they have "strong evidence" that missing UK toddler Madeleine McCann is dead, as . He had carefully fitted up Krokowski. If Madeleine died after 6pm on 3 May, what would the McCanns have had to do? Rightly, Dr Roberts queries what was the point of the McCanns taking these photographs? A comparison was made between the Last Photo and the Make-Up Photo. In the Last Photo, which appears to have been taken on Sunday, she was happy and obviously smiling at something that amused her. Arranging two bogus week-long searches of a dam in Portugal, the Arade Dam, pretending that they knew nothing about this search, when in fact they had paid a lawyer, Marcos Aragao Correia and men form Metodo 3 to conduct the search. views of the Madeleine McCann Research Group, August 2016. Here are our main reasons: The change of routines from Sunday night onwards and the absence of independent and corroborated sightings of Madeleine from then onwards (see above). (iv) Where can we get a car quickly so as to hide it? Madeleine McCann may have been kidnapped by slave traders and sold to a rich family in North Africa or the Middle East, a . It was a wild goose chase. The abduction hoax ready scripted and ready to carry out? Its Head of Risk, Alex Woolfall flew there the very next day (4 May) and he was later joined by another top Director of the company. Point 5. The body, the existence of which has been confirmed by the EVRD and CSI dogs but also by the results of the preliminary laboratory analyses, cannot be found. These bogus stories were then fed to the media. She did not make her statement until 20 August - over three-and-a-half months after the event. She said she spoke to a friend of hers, Edna Glyn, while the crying was going on, but neither of them did anything about it. Maddie 'killed by sleeping pill overdose'. In this respect, the fact that the only fingerprints found on the opened window was that of Kate McCann is highly significant. They has eaten in the Millennium Restaurant on the Saturday evening. All of these, we say, are wholly consistent with something very serious having happened to Madeleine McCann on the Sunday. A comparison was made between the Last Photo and the Make-Up Photo. Her mother came to fetch her at 12.25 for lunch and took her back at 2 o'clock. He kept pestering the police with plausible suggestions about lines of enquiry that they should be following. A third (but we say unlikely) possibility is that she did suffer a genuine accident, but that the McCanns did not produce her to the local hospital because there may have been indications that Madeleine had previously suffered some form of harm or abuse. But we believe we now have sufficient knowledge to be able to state with confidence what we say below. Whilst this doesnt prove that Jane Tanner and Robert Murat were in Krokowskis apartment that week, it certainly raises at least the possibility that they were. We do not think it was. Besides that, the times shown for Madeleine being in the creche do not even agree with what Kate McCann says in her own book about the events of that week. Evidence that a group planned in advance how to create a major news story on the morning of Friday 4 May. 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