Today, its more like 2.5. This entry was posted in Health & Wellbeing. This is why we are hoping Elon Musk gets hyperloop technology built beneath LA! In my job there I did a lot of driving to sites, which stressed me out but eventually I came to love, because I learned about different parts of the area, and our clients various secret tips and so on. Can you carpool with anyone so that some days you can relax? Go to Nottingham (don't commute) Go to Holloway (commute) A jsuch01 I am going to uni in sep, and i am considering commuting 2 hours, each trip, to my uni. Im a slight woman, Asian, in my mid twenties and took the train from LB to DTLA for work. Also even though many people here live in highly dense areas and have long commutes, statistically speaking, many of the longest commute times seem to be in rural areas. We weighed the options and decided wed rather have an awesome place to come home to rather than a bed in a bare room. Incredibly poor condition of tracks? As youve found out a 30 mi commute has a HUGE range of times it actually takes. For what its worth, Im in DC and I know quite a few people with commutes that long or longer and almost everyone I know who lives in the suburbs has a shorter commute usually but is used to it taking 2+ hours to get home. My company allows WFH as much as two days a week, which gives people flexibility and a better work/ life balance. I live in West LA and used to live in Westwood those might sound like suburbs, but theyre actually LA proper (controlled by LA city council and mayor). Might be a city for you to target in your job search. All my other commutes have been around 30 mins. A lot of my coworkers did the same. I dont think Natalie is talking about theoretical calculation of commutes on Google Maps or something. There are ever-growing RV encampments all over with people just trying to make ends meet. I wont say thats just how things are in LA. Have you tested the 2 hours on google maps? One selfish driver may add minutes to the commute of others to shave seconds off of their commute. It is working for us because most of the commute is on public transit. If Its an hour Id prefer to be walking or using public transit though hate being stuck in a car. I faux commuted to my target neighborhoods to make sure I could handle it. When I lived in SF, the 45-minute ride from my apartment into downtown was already pushing it for me. 118, 5, 170, 101 then streets (4 freeways? Thank you :D. I use them to read books that I wouldnt have purchased or spent valuable eye-reading time on, and Ive discovered a few favorite authors that I wouldnt have expected. :-) Besides, I commute with my husband and we keep each other company during the drive. Exactly. In case you do think about moving: The first worst commute is Valley to west side, the second is San Gabriel Valley to Culver City area, and the third worst is south LA/Garden Grove/LB to anywhere north of DTLA, regardless of whether youre going east or west of DTLA. Maybe you can start taking a picnic dinner to a park with him. La Habra and Whittier are pretty far from the freeways. I have no good advice, just sympathy! Just because our public transit options in the Bay Area are better than the ones in LA doesnt mean our public transit options are actually good, though! Around Chicago, my commute is a 30-40 minute drive from suburb to suburb (Schaumburg/Elgin to Mt. Oh, and Seattle native here, and I have to tell all you Seattle kids, the traffic in Seattle and surrounding communities is ALREADY as bad or worse than LA. But the salient point here is that the OP is asking if she has to just suck it up because *shrug*, thats LA, and so many of us are saying that while LA traffic is indeed ridiculous, there are better and worse commutes, and we are reassuring OP that people in LA do indeed make choices that allow them to have more manageable commutes within the terrible, horrible, no-good traffic. Yep; we discovered that the hard way last year while visiting my uncle in Palos Verdes. Definitely not normal here! For context, Im in the DC area and my commute door to door is roughly an hour on mass transit. Even if I could have found housing, NO WAY was I willing to move there. It is not sustainable. I did that length of a commute for about a year when I lived there. It would take me only 15 min longer to walk, which I should probably start doing! Long hours, stress and the commute just made it unsustainable. Yeah once I had stopped an hour commute, I shudder thinking about ever having to do that again. If you had spoken with someone whos lived in LA for a few years, they would have talked you out of it. Its very specific to you. Its worth it for the commute for me. 12 miles to the park n ride and 23 miles on the commuter bus (employer pays for bus pass, so I dont have to pay for parking at work). I do a 2 hour commute each way 2 days a week and it's not too bad, actually quite enjoy the time to myself to read a book. I tell my guests to do Westside things (beach, Getty) on one day and Eastside things (Hollywood, Griffith Observatory) on a different day. I live in Orange County and work in Burbank. I said it raised a red flag for me and was worth a conversation. For this area, its the cost of housing that drives people to live further away from the metro areas and creates those long commutes. Its worth a conversation, ASAP.). BUT I suppose the flip side is that for commuting 30 miles, it sounds about right. People texting, tinted rear windows, vigilantes who try to control the flow of traffic by driving slow in the fast lane, illegals aliens with legal drivers licenses who are unfamiliar with and did not learn how to drive on our freeways, lack of situational awareness. Living in San Francisco has skewed so much my sense of whats expensive that my first reaction to you saying this was Only $2000?!. It sounds like you cant, either. My job is 6.2 miles away from home exactly a 10K. But theyll pretty much all be crowded. An entire day! On Fridays in the sunmertime, it can be even longer. I spent as much time changing trains as travelling. I would say 45-60 minutes seems to be the norm among my colleagues with a few outliers either way. It would help if you had cruise control and/or an auto gearbox. This was a really hard habit for me to break, but my quality of life got so much better when I just shrugged and said It is what it is about traffic and commuting. 710 is usually fine. I imagine that in retail or food service, you are more likely to pick a job based on location, because theres not that many other differences between employers? But, thats because I work 7-3 or 3:30 and get in about 6:30-6:45. The answer to that question is no. so long as Im actually moving. The traffic headed to Hayward was absolutely miserable, the traffic on the main road I took in Hayward was miserable (Why did the chicken cross Industrial Boulevard? I could walk from my place to work if I wanted, which is very convenient. I didnt realize how toxic that crazy commute was until it was gone. My coworkers who lived in Manhattan Beach and had to take the 405 or Echo Park and took the 101 the whole way hated their lives. I dont like suburbs anyway, I like inner city. I zone out or just watch a movie on my phone or just sleep. I was in a nice suburban low-rise before, and I could park & be at my desk in about 30 seconds. I used to do 90-100 mins each in the car way every day. Anyway! I can get through two books a week and draft two articles if I. I had to do it in the days before traffic apps like WAZE and MAN, it was nightmarish. I work from home and share a car with my wife, whose job is on the other side of townall of 10 minutes away if we go exactly at the speed limit! Only to commiserate. Personally I couldnt do it. 118, 5, 170, take a canyon over the mountains then streets (average drive time over an hour). It gets old, fast :) For many folks this probably would not work, but it seems to the best fit for his family. I know some people that do 1-1.5 hour commutes from outlaying rural areas into my city to work; employment options are scarce in really tiny towns and until they have another oil boom they wont get anything for their house. Lots of people can handle that, but I cannot. Thats twelve hours a day of work plus commute. It was ridiculous; I stuck it out until I was able to transfer closer a couple years ago. It works, but cuts into family time together. The commute is one of my top criteria in deciding whether or not to take a job. Yep. Totally do-able (especially when I worked east of Sepulveda and took Laurel Canyon). My aging brain just cant take the stress. Even working in Hollywood was about 35-60 minutes depending on how bad the traffic was on any particular day, or if say, a house on a trailer was left on the side of the 101 for three months and the city couldnt figure out what to do with it. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I have a life, I actually see my kids, and small houses are way easier to clean. I have commuted about 40 min each way of straight highway driving in the reverse commute and it was just fine, almost relaxing. I think the only reason it was doable was because I *wasnt* in the car, and I could zone out (and not having to make any connections was great). 2 1/2 hours each way while I was working a 9-5 job. If you feel like youre competing with all the other cars on the road, youre going to be in a stressed mindset thats not contributing to safe driving or a happy day. Not in LA, but I was held at gun point by a group of teens in Bushwick near a train stop walking home 2 years ago (if you google it a few reports will come up) and I still have slight PTSD from that. Without him around, I had to quit my job to take care of the baby. I did that commute for 5 years from LB to WeHo and back. This seems expensive and wasteful to me, both in terms of money and life. Sitting in a car for 2 hours and driving 15 miles per hour for 2 hours are totally different things. I didnt love it, but it wasnt too bad since it wasnt a straight-up crawl unless there was an accident. 45-60 is way more common, as are 20 minute commutes if youre traveling between neighboring cities (e.g. That article *really* misses how inflated housing cost are in some urban centers. The average commute in the UK is around 59 minutes per day (both ways combined). I cant afford that because I dont make that much. my commute is between 6.5 and 9 miles depending on the route and takes at least 30 minutes. Im fortunate enough to have flex time and very understanding bosses. (Yeah, I said it. not trying to say you should walk instead, just emphasizing how silly that time is!). Sometimes I would take the commuter bus into downtown, then hop on the Expo line to work. link to paper: https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/working-papers/2013/demo/SEHSD-WP2013-03.pdf. I feel your pain. I used to work 45 minutes away (office moved farther away) and had a 5:30 am 2 pm shift. LA is currently investing in more public transit, now, but it will take years before it comes online. It doesnt seem impossible that theres 30 miles of road (point-A-to-point-B) between OPs home and workplace. But driving, I dont want to spend more than an hour a day in the car. Leaving a little earlier might be worth it if you find that it allows you to relax more on the road, even if it does increase the overall time. Its all a tradeoff. Luckily I have since changed jobs and am down to 45 minutes each way by walking + BART, or 30 minutes by bike. My longest was 2 hours one way but I worked 24 hour shifts 8 times a month so it not as awful as it could have been. My commute is really short because I live in the same town I work in, but were thinking of moving offices and my commute will go from 15 to 35 minutes. I, too, went to be by 9 and woke up at 5 left at 6:20 or so and got home around 7 or later. Were building more but its going to take a long time. There might be a convenient public transit option for you. This was a guaranteed 2 hours each way (45 mins on the train +11 miles of biking) but at least I got to tune out for the train ride for a bit. Accept this and stop trying to beat it. Your commute is not going to change before this commute makes you lose your mind. I commute a total of 4 hours a day to London from my home town. I started them a year and a half ago and theyve changed my whole commute life. (I get to keep whatever I dont spend.) Either way, door to door it was a little over 2 hours each way. For me, my 52 minute commute was extended to 1 hour 15 minutes anytime school was in session. Is it an hour today? But thats my opinion, and others may disagree. That is sadly very normal out here (and thats my current commute). Splurge on Audible, or ad-free Spotify. Currently, I commute from my village to Northumbria University, this being an hour commute via local bus services. When they were first married, my parents lived in LA. Ultimately I think the question for you is not whats normal for your region, but what feels doable and sustainable for you in the long-term. 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